The blue section indicates the area that extends west to ACP/7th Avenue which was recognized in the National Register of Historic places back in 1996. This designation does not have the protective element as an official New York City Landmark designation of which the Mount Morris Park Community Improvement Association has been trying to achieve for some time. Does anyone have updates on how that's coming along? Read more on the Historic District Council site: LINK
Not too sure why MMPCIA would want to landmark 5th between 119 and 118. It's a tower block.
ReplyDeleteIf this blog site & that organization is going to elect to disregard recognizing the name of that park, written in law by NYC Mayor John Lindsay almost 40 years ago, why not go all out and disregard recognizing all African American names on public spaces, parks and streets in Harlem?
ReplyDeleteFor example, this blog has no problem recognizing Jackie Robinson Park, yet when it comes to recognizing Marcus Garvey Park?....then this blog somehow loses it's consistency. How and why is that?
Is there an official list somewhere of Negro names we accept and agree to recognize, and Negro names we don't?
Settle down, Reynolds93. Assuming bad intent, as always, eh?
ReplyDeleteThe park was renamed from its original name (Mount Morris Park) to its current name (Marcus Garvey Park) in 1973. The historic district was established in 1971--two years before the park was renamed.
It really isn't a matter of "disregarding all African American names," in spite of your desire for that to be the case. Have a nice day!
@Reynolds93 - So this blog should not use the official name of the historic district? Ulysses should take it upon himself to change the official name of the district?
ReplyDeleteIf you have a complaint, perhaps you should take it directly the Landmarks Preservation Committee regarding the official name of the district. It is simply illogical and absurd to attack this blog for using the official name. You seem to have so many issues with this blog that perhaps you should create your own.
really Reynolds93 "negro" names?
ReplyDeleteBecause only the park proper is named Marcus Garvey. Everything else retains the historical name.
ReplyDeleteJeeze, chill out, B. Too hot to get your knickers in such a twist before noon.
Does anyone know about the process for extending an already established historic district? How does a community go about extending the historic district?
ReplyDeleteGreg, the last time I inquired about the process, I was told that the Landmarks Committee vote on the matter once in a while. As far as I know, that is the only way it can be changed. That was about a year ago though and as far as I know nothing has changed. Maybe if enough people lobbied for it to be done they would address it in a future meeting. Does anybody else know if it is on a future agenda?
ReplyDeleteOh Chris, look at my post to you in reference to the $85 tasting menu at 5 and Diamond.
ReplyDeleteBring this on. These are some of the most beautiful streets in Harlem if not NYC, and they deserve protection.
ReplyDeleteOf all the many, varied and colorful folks I have met in Harlem these last 3 years, I have only heard 1 person refer to it as Marcus Garvey Park.
ReplyDeleteSimilarly, Lenox is Lenox, not Malcolm X Boulevard.
People like to use the names they like, not the names some government official makes them use. So the Triboro is still called the Triboro. And East 52nd Street bet. 5th and Madison is called "East 52nd Street" and not "Place de Cartier".
Most people just ignore 'commemorative' names and use the names their community has long used.
This is nothing to do with "white" people vs. "black" people (god, do we have to keep saying this).
And speaking of Lenox, the renovation going on at the building between 121and 122, the one next to Mickey's funeral parlour, should be due for a visit from Landmarks. The new windows are about a third too small and have plywood to fill the gaps. They are also white vinyl or aluminum.
ReplyDeleteNot cool.
I’m pleased to see 5th Ave above MMP included, that block has some really nice brownstones.
ReplyDeleteReynolds93, if you actually believe that there's a conscious intent to "disregard recognizing all African American names on public spaces, parks and streets in Harlem" then you definitely believe the same holds true of the following;
ReplyDeleteThe Joe DiMaggio Highway is always referred to as the West Side Highway despite the official name change so therefore it must be a conscious decision to disregard recognizing Italian American names.
The Robert Kennedy Bridge is always referred to as the Triboro Bridge despite the official name change so therefore it must be a conscious decision to disregard recognizing Irish American names.
Fashion Avenue is always referred to as 7th so therefore it must be a conscious decision to disregard gays.
I was being silly with that last one but do you honestly believe the above to be true or does it really only apply when you seek to substantiate the separatist world you allow yourself to remain a victim of?
Incidentally, when I first moved into the neighborhood I referred to the park as Marcus Garvey, because that's what the sign says. But after hearing lifelong African American residents refer to it as Mount Morris Park as well as referring to Malcolm as Lenox, well, I did what the Romans do.