The 3 family townhouse back on the market at 2087 Fifth Avenue (between East 129th and East 128th Street) is another one of those buildings that have had an excellent extreme makeover. The five level brownstone was on the market in 2006 for $3.3 million and just returned with a reduced price of $2.6 million. Apparently the 20 x 66 foot wide, 7,000 square foot (?) residence, has a 5 bedroom, 3.5 bath triplex owner's unit along with two other floor through apartments to rent out. Technically, this is part of the East Harlem triangle north of 125th Street, on the east side of 5th Avenue but the brownstone side streets make it feel more part of central Harlem. The immediate block is residential and one has to head over 1 avenue and down to 125th Street to catch the 2,3 express train. Did anyone see this house? Thoughts? Facade photo by Ulysses
Ulysses,
ReplyDeleteWhat's the difference between east harlem and central harlem with respect to this location? I just don't get it. Does the Harlem food chain look like this :
1. West Harlem ( SOHA)
2. Central Harlem
3. East Harlem
Moreover, Madison Avenue is 1 avenue east of 5th and still looks and feels like Central Harlem. Would you disagree?
ReplyDeleteI don't think Ulysses is making a statement of what the "food chain" is. Clearly everybody wants different things so
ReplyDeleteFirst of all, SoHA is part of Central Harlem, not West Harlem, it's just the Southern part of Central Harlem. Althought I don't care for the name "SoHa"
I do agree that Madison Avenue feels like Central Harlem too. I've always felt that Park Avenue is the real border of East Harlem -the above ground train really divides the neighborhoods.
At any rate, gorgeous house.
For CB 11 East Harlem Zoning Map:
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Ulessys does an excellent job of clarity when referring to geographic areas. Interesting map and agrees with the street numbers that count east and west of Fifth Ave, just like the rest of Manhattan.
ReplyDeleteYes, clearly technically East Harlem begins at 5th avenue ... but 5th and Madison feel much more like Central Harlem. I've always throught Park Avenue was the pyschological border, if not the official one.
ReplyDeleteAgreed, Park Avenue is better as the neighborhood changes either side of the Metro North tracks.
ReplyDeleteIt's a tough one. In my head, I associate anything on 5th ave. and east as East Harlem. Midtown, Upper East Side etc. anything east of Central Park is obviously East. 5th avenue just sounds like it is East and not Central.
ReplyDeleteAnyway you slice it this house is beautiful.
ReplyDeleteIf it were 20 blocks south would sell for double or triple the asking price.
Agree with GreenGirl that technically, 5th Ave. divides East and West. However, I'd place this house in High Five, a designation that allows for the charming commonalities of the area from 125th - 135 St. , Lenox Ave.- Madison Ave. that several poster allude to.
ReplyDeleteDoes the High Five include the blocks between Park and Madison? They are certainly some beautifully lined brownstone streets?
ReplyDeleteQuit trying to make up names for neighborhoods. The general consensus is that everyone hates those terms. Stick with East, Central, South, West which is what everyone is in agreement with. You are obviously the same person bringing this up each time.
ReplyDeleteMy wife and I saw this place - its amazing.
ReplyDeleteYes, I'm the same person bringing this up each time; some people, though obviously not you, love High Five. Harlem has historically taken to COOl names like Sugar Hill snd Strivers Row. If you don't like High Five, don't use it, but don't tell me what to do.
ReplyDeleteBy the way, Anonymous @1:55, a lovely couple I met at a neighborhood barbeque this evening told me that they intend to expand the High Five to include their building in exactly the area you mention.If you like it, use it!
@10:18. The problem, you see, is that "High Five" simply isn't cool.
ReplyDeleteMore like dumb and dated.
Sanou,
ReplyDeleteAnon 1:55 here. Why is High Five dumb, and moreover, dated? I don't think it's dumb at all and don't know whether it's dated because this is the first time I'm hearing about it.
Hey look everyone, it's Mr. Sour! I get so tickled when you're the first to comment because rather than starting a productive conversation, you predictably beat the dead horse about the blog being biased. Then as sure as the sky is blue all the other commenters disagree with you and defend their beloved blog and blogger thus reinforcing the fact that you need to switch the channel if you don't like th program. But you won't will you? You bask in the glow of Sourdom. It's so old. Get a life.
ReplyDeleteTo each his own, Sanou's mum. A lot of people don't agree with you.
ReplyDeleteI'm the one who posted High Five here, but I didn't create it. I just like it. The determinant of whether or not High Five is a cool name will be whether or not it catches on. Those of us who like it, will use it, and those who don't won't? Why argue?